You seem to be keying in on the portal. Have you checked to make sure that the things below the portal (the things that you want to slide up into where the portal was) are also set to slide up?
Verify also that you've checked the box to reduce the size of the enclosing body part if that is appropriate.
A portal set to slide up will remove empty rows - but the row height remains constant. Why don't you print from the child table instead, with parent info in a sub-summary?
yes, that worked great, as you can see, i am still getting the feel of fm. slowly, i am getting my head around how it works. it is quite different from what i am used to, i.e., delphi, etc. thank you again.