9 Replies Latest reply on Jul 14, 2010 4:50 PM by carolg_1

    1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...

    carolg_1

      Summary

      1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table visible

      Product

      FileMaker Pro

      Version

      11

      Operating system version

      OS X snow leopard

      Description of the issue

      I have a data base consisting of a single table with about a dozen fields in it. It has 950 records. Access has been totally uneventful until today, when I created the new fields required to add Tiff files in a container field for each record. I specified that a pointer to the Tiff file should be stored, not the file itself. By the way, I created a test file with one record and was able to successfully create and access one of these TIFF files. Troubles only began when I imported these filenames into the full table.

      I had a thumbnail field defined which has not been used by FMP (but I really don't use it). The thumbnail icon appears in the container field. On the rare occasion when I can navigate to the TIFF container field, clicking on the container box or the thumbnail has no effect. In fact, the Mac color wheel typically starts spinning and I have to terminate use of the database. 

      Most often, when I open the file, the entire table of 950 records appears for the pre-existing fields. When I try to navigate in table view to the new fields, the cursor will not move and I cannot see these fields. After a few minutes of watching the color wheel spin, I might be able to tab over to the container, but still can't display the tiff file. Then, if I try to tab back to the leftmost fields in a record, the program occasionally hangs again. This behavior is somewhat erratic and the sequence of events is not always consistent. One other thing I observed was a double image of the thumbnails in the column for the container. Once the file loaded completely, the double image disappeared and all the new fields looked normal until I tried to either access the TIFF or navigate further down the table.Then it would hang again.

      The file names stored in the records appear to be totally correct, and I can access these files outside of FMP.

      Creation of these new records took quite a while, and the color wheel appeared numerous times. I would see some of the records updated with the new fields, but then the wheel would show up again and I could no longer see the new fields.

      I appreciate any suggestions on either fixing this or working around it.

      thanks
      Carol Grossman

      Steps to reproduce the problem

      described above. since my original table was so small and flat (no relationships), it should be easy to reproduce with a folder containing a bunch of tiff files being imported into a small table.

      Expected result

      expected to be able to click on the tiff container field and see the Tiff images displayed

      Actual result

      see above--do not see images, and program behaves erratically and eventually hangs

      Exact text of any error message(s) that appear

      none

      Configuration information

      as described above.  I'm running on a 4 gbyte iMac running OS X snow leopard with up to date maintenance. All software is at current support levels. I have not installed the recently announced patches to FMP 11. WOuld this help?

      Workaround

      none

        • 1. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
          philmodjunk

          Some additional pieces of info may help rule out possible causes.

          Have you downloaded and installed the Fmp 11.0v2 updater that was just released?

          Does a recovered copy of the file show the same behavior?

          How large are these image files?

          If you create a new file, define a similar number of fields and import the image links into this file, do you get the same behavior?

          • 2. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
            carolg_1

            good suggestions! I installed the updates--problem recurs.

            I recovered the file, but no errors were found.

            I built a new table and imported the same collection of 950 images. The same kinds of behavior occur. It almost seems as if it's taking a long,long time to load. Even after all the records were visible in the table, I still could not get the TIFFs to open. the cursor would spontaneously turn into the color wheel as I tried to navigate through the table. Eventually FMP hung and stopped working. Apple must be deluged with error logs from me!

            The image files range in size from 90kb up to 2.5mb.

            One thing--the first time around, I was adding new fields to an existing file, and in the second test case I added the fields as new records. 

            I've restarted the iMac several times

            • 3. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
              carolg_1

              new information: I displayed the activity monitor while the test database described above was trying to open.

              It appears that the file is slow to load--it will display 30 to 50 reords, stall, then display a couple of hundred more, then stall, etc Sometimes the records displayed on the screen back hitch--at one time the range might be records 350 to 400, and a moment later it has backed up to 150 to 200 for example. then it moves forward again. Memory usage, by the way, is not excessive--100kb real, about the same virtual.

              While all this is going on, I was also watching the activity monitor. FMP would take as much as 90 to 99% cpu at times, with no sign of more records on display. THe entry for the FMP thread would also occasionally display DOES NOT RESPOND, then it would pick up again. This happened about three times and then the filemaker window disappeared. A few moments later, the display from OS X came up saying the application had terminated.

              Below is the information that displayed with this message:

              Process:         FileMaker Pro [2128]Path:            /Applications/FileMaker Pro 11/FileMaker Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/FileMaker ProIdentifier:      com.filemaker.client.proVersion:         11.0.2 (11.0.2)Code Type:       X86 (Native)Parent Process:  launchd [197]
              Date/Time:       2010-07-03 12:38:04.980 -0600OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D2094)Report Version:  6
              Interval Since Last Report:          16495 secPer-App Interval Since Last Report:  2464 secPer-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1Anonymous UUID:                      EAB4461E-0B39-4166-95BE-8BF409C6C417
              Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000039e0c000Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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              Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):  eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x969ee114  ecx: 0x00000000  edx: 0x96a5bda0  edi: 0x37e95000  esi: 0x39e0bffa  ebp: 0xbfff9848  esp: 0xbfff97f0   ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00210216  eip: 0x969ee270   cs: 0x00000017   ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037  cr2: 0x39e0c000
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              • 4. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
                carolg_1

                I was able to create a table with one record and successfully display the tiff from the container field.

                I tried it again, this time with five tiff files in five records. the file did not exhibit any of the strange behaviors I saw with the monster file,  but I was unable to click on the container field to display the image. Then, I exported one of the tif files. It successfully exported, and it was readable in its new folder! So, it appears the image pointers are out there, but when there is more than one record with a tiff container, FMP will not display them! By the way, I tried the same thing with jpg files--they don't work either.

                To summarize, there seem to be two problems:

                1. image files in containers with FMP 11 do not display if there is more than one record with an image container

                2. a relatively large (about 1000 records with three or four fields including one tiff container) table locks up FMP and causes it to crash or hang. See one of my earlier notes for more detail on the behavior.

                One other curious thing I noticed. The thumbnail that appears in the container field does not look exactly like the thumbnail produced by FMP and placed in its own field. Looks like one has considerably finer resolution.

                • 5. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
                  philmodjunk

                  I could be wrong, but I suspect that displaying such images in a list view where you thus have potentially a very long list of images that need rendering in their respective container fields is more than filemaker and/or your system can handle. I suspect this is not your preferred layout design here, but you might try limiting your found set to a small number of records and use buttons to pull up the next group rather than scrolling. This may reduce the amount of disk access needed to see your list of records with their container fields.

                  • 6. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
                    carolg_1

                    Phil--I think you're right! When I access it in a layout with one record at a time there is no problem with the weird hangs and crashes. I can rapidly scan forward in the database with no problem. Actually, this will be my preferred way of access once the data base is completed.

                    However, I still cannot view the tiff image. I am using file>import>folder, and on that menu I specify the folder containing the tiffs, and specify store pointers only. I have tried it in two different ways, one with an empty table adding new records, and the other adding new fields to existing records (both options on the import screen). In either case, I set it up so that the image goes to a container, filename and path go to text fields, and (if I use it) the thumbnail goes to another container. The import works with no error messages. in either case, I cannot click on the container field for the image and have it display. 

                    What am I doing wrong? Someone in another forum suggested I had to export the image in order to view it, but this seems rather onerous, and besides, I have seen examples in the documentation and other FMP books that show this working, not to mention the Help menu in FMP.

                    You have been a tremendous help so far in tracking down the problem. Thank you very much!

                    • 7. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
                      carolg_1

                      I figured out how to get the first image in my TIFF file to display--see page 89 of the online user's guide. You must be in layout mode, select a container field, and then use the Inspector to specify the data formatting.

                      So, now I have the first image of my TIFF file display in a layout--beautiful! But, each of my TIFF files has around 20 related images in it. How can I get FMP to navigate to the remaining images? Or do I have to figure out a way to beak up the TIFF file into its pieces and load all of these in???? Groan.

                      • 8. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
                        philmodjunk

                        Never heard of "20 related images" in the same TIFF file before unless you have a single image that consists of multiple smaller images placed side by side.

                        I suspect you'll have to break up your Tiffs into smaller files and load each smaller file in a separate record's container field.

                        • 9. Re: 1000 record table with one container field causes filemaker pro 11 to hang, only parts of the table...
                          carolg_1

                          The TIFF format allows for multiple images within one file, although I suspect it may not be used that much. I was able to solve my problem by using the INSERT>FILE command in the container field. A doubleclick later, my tiff images were all accessible. The trick is to use this command, not the import function.

                          Phil--thank you for all your suggestions in guiding me through to finding an answer. You were very helpful.