3 Replies Latest reply on Feb 23, 2014 1:24 AM by Markus Schneider

    Layout index damaged



      Layout index damaged


      FileMaker Pro


      FM Pro Advanced 11

      Operating system version

      Windows Vista SP 2

      Description of the issue

      I have a problem with an old, huge database containing about 270 layouts (in one of the tables). Yesterday I added several new tables and started to reorganize the layouts in the original table, deleting some, creating others and adding about 20 layout folders.
      Since then the layouts are not indexed correctly anymore: If I try to move to a layout by using the drop-down menu (which is important for the users), I will be directed to the last layout whenever the consecutive number of the layout is 256 or higher (the life-time number of layouts being about 1.000 including the folders, which, as I have learned from the recovery file, are obviously counted twice). And if I change from that to the preceding layout by using a script or switching into layout mode, the check mark in the drop-down menu will stay with the last. Layout folders beyond consecutive number 256 are not shown at all.
      This is very annoying, since I have to decide whether or not to rebuild the database completely which would be a lot of work.
      So, I need advice.
      Greetings, Vege

        • 1. Re: Layout index damaged

               This is a known issue, but I wouldn't have the users trying to select layouts from this layout menu anyway--especially with that many layouts. There are much more user friendly options for controlling navigation from one layout to another--including setting up your own drop down list of layouts to use for such navigation.

               For More Information see:     http://filemaker.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/filemaker.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=548

               This is one of many acknowledged bugs that can be found in the Known Bug List thread here in the Report an Issue section of the forum.

               It can also be downloaded as a database file from:    https://www.dropbox.com/s/jt09b82i0xijbu3/FMP%20Bugs.zip

          • 2. Re: Layout index damaged

                 Hello Phil, and thanks again for your swift answer.

                 I must admit that I never heard of this problem before. Funny thing is – I just checked it once more in an older version of the database –, that this problem occurred yesterday for the first time, in connection with the operations described.

                 There is one other weird thing I did not mention and that makes me wonder if the database may be seriously damaged: The new tables I added to the database were copies from other files – you know, I am uniting several files. During this process I made a mistake and had to delete a new table two or three times until it worked properly. I didn’t notice my mistake until I had imported the data from the original table.

                 Of course FM creates a layout each time a new table is added. And now that: After I had deleted the table and created a new one by the same name, FM still showed the records of the deleted table! They were not selectable etc., just “ghosts”. They only vanished when I deleted the obsolete layout.

                 So would you think it is secure to use this file anymore?

                 Greetings, Vege

            • 3. Re: Layout index damaged
              Markus Schneider

                   If You got 'zombie' scripts, cf, whatever, I would prefer to go back to the last 'good' backup and rebuild that file...

                   Happened here a couple of times - and we _never_ copy anything anymore from another file, the risk is to big on large solution where we can't go back to a backup of that file immediately (last and final time that this happened, we hat to wait for more tha a week until we could stop the server (resp. the file)...

                   I'm not really sure if this bug is solved in newer FM versions, since AFAIK it was never confirmed. Btw: I _believe_ that it occurs when copy from a local file to a server file. I never had it when copying from local to local files.