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    FM 14 and web direct

    Wolfno

      Hello community,

       

      We are discussing to use web direct for some databases. We would like to avoid any use (or only very little) of php programming. Does anybody know good examples of FM Webdirect based pages like a registration form for a course or form for delivering a report etc.

      I would like to see what is possible with web direct on the web.

      Thank you.

        • 1. Re: FM 14 and web direct
          noel_ferron@msn.com

          We have developed a WebDirect application used in 40 different cities in Quebec by 100 mecanicians in order to track the progression of the operations they have to perform on equipments.

          They access the application whith mobile tablet, identify the equipment they have to inspect, receive a display of the operations they have to perform, indicate for each operation if it has been done, if a piece has been repaired or replaced, measurements, etc.

          When all operations have been performed, they have to print a certificate of conformity, and that's the tricky option of the system, because you can print only one page at a time in WebDirect.  So we had to build scripts to didplay the pages one by one in order to allow their printing.

          They application is running since a year.

          • 2. Re: FM 14 and web direct
            Doug Staubach

            Hi Wolfno:

             

            In my opinion, Webdirect is the easiest way to build a web-enabled database application.

             

            (I'm not a salesperson - I just use the product and am very happy with it.)

             

            There is no need to learn PHP, Javascript, SQL, APIs, or even HTML -- you design both your database and your display screens using the same tool: the FileMaker Pro client (actually, I recommend using FileMaker Pro Advanced for this purpose). When everything looks good on your client, you click a checkbox, and the file will be copied to the FileMaker Server with WebDirect, and anyone with a web browser can view it there.

             

            FileMaker uses visual layout tools, so "what you see is what you get" (when you place fields, change sizes, and customize colors and fonts on your layout screen, those changes will be instantly updated on the web page, without having to do anything special).

             

            Thanks,

            Doug

            • 3. Re: FM 14 and web direct
              planteg

              When all operations have been performed, they have to print a certificate of conformity, and that's the tricky option of the system, because you can print only one page at a time in WebDirect.  So we had to build scripts to display the pages one by one in order to allow their printing.


              Hi Noel, in WebDirect, printing is not supposed to be available, so how can you print, apart using a robot ?


              Thanks

              • 4. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                Markus Schneider

                you can have the browser printing. If You create a one-page-layout in FileMakerthat fits, users can print from the browser.

                 

                we've had problems doing this, because of the status lines of the browser that the IT of some customers wanted to have as a default )-:

                • 5. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                  Wolfno

                  Thank you. Is this a webpage which is open on the Web? WoUps like to see an example on the web. Can you put Logos and some design elements via web direct on the page?

                  • 7. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                    mikebeargie

                    Also, see my CSS hack blog post about making printer friendly CSS for WebDirect:

                    DevCon WebDirect Series 2 of 4: Printer-friendly CSS | MainSpring

                     

                    But yeah, you can print any website using the built in browser print tools.

                    • 8. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                      mikebeargie

                      One of the best examples I know of a form is actually NightWing's form:

                       

                      Go to this site and click any of the "purchase" links and you'll see it jump to webdirect

                      NightWing Enterprises - Products for FileMaker Pro Developers

                       

                      example WebDirect link:

                      http://web.nightwingenterprises.com/fmi/webd#registration~ultralog

                       

                      The experience is seamless within their regular website, so unless looking at the URL, you don't even notice it launching into WebDirect.

                      • 9. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                        Wolfno

                        Thank you. Do you have any experience if  web direct makes it possible to include login possibilities and password protection. We are building a student report database. The students have to fill in a form which will be published for everybody and is searchable but in order to do updates the student author has to log in after a while to make corrections. This should be done with a personal password.

                        • 10. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                          mikebeargie

                          Yes, you can do that. Account creation, account login, account administration.

                           

                          Incidentally I have done a very similar system to that as well with medical reports instead of student reports.

                           

                          I'd recommend the accounts module from Darren Burgess as a solution for script and table based user account management. It does involve a fair bit of setup, but it's well documented.

                           

                          http://www.modularfilemaker.org/module/accounts-modular-user-account-management/

                          • 11. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                            taylorsharpe

                            WebDirect is a very rapid application development tool by FileMaker that makes it very easy to get a professional looking and scripting solution on the web and I've done some module of it for most of the solutions I work on for clients.  It might be as simple as getting web feedbacks to cart systems for ordering merchandise and processing credit cards. 

                             

                            The caveat is that while this is made easy by FileMaker Server, the processing is all on the FileMaker Server as its own full session which eats up a lot of memory compared to CWP with PHP.  That is why FileMaker does not make claims to be able to support more than 100 simultaneous WebDirect users while there are many PHP web sites handling thousands or hundreds of thousands of sessions.  For solutions that don't need more than 100, WebDirect is a great tool to really bring down the cost and increase development time of a web solution.  For its target audience, it is a great tool. 

                             

                            Note that for those of you with minimal server hardware configurations, FileMaker Server must be beefed up a lot to handle many FileMaker WebDirect Sessions.  Think of it as almost like having a new application running for each session on that server.  Lots of RAM is important to WebDirect!

                            • 12. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                              noel_ferron@msn.com

                              We use the standard printing functions that are available with Chrome.

                              Robot was not an appropriate solution for this project because users are in different sites all over Quebec province.  They have no access to other softwares, and have a few other constrains.

                               

                              If you open the following image, you will see 3 buttons named Page, Page2 and Page3  that are shown depending of the number of pages to be printed (in that system, the maximun is 3)   (the Hide function is used for page2 and Page3 if they are not necessary). Each of these Page buttons display the appropriate page on the screen when pressed.

                              The message buttons are used to provide some instructions to the user.

                              The printer button provide a message to instruct the user to use the Ctrl + P keys in order to print the displayed page

                              And the  "la Cabane au Canada" is used to return to Home Screen.

                              FM_WebDiect_Safir_Printing_Button.tiff

                              Hoping it is useful to you.

                              Best regards.

                              • 13. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                                noel_ferron@msn.com

                                The answer is YES.

                                With WebDirect almost everything works almost like a standard FileMaker application.

                                 

                                The following image provide you an example of an Equipment Inspection Report.

                                • A yellow question mark open a popover with the detailed instructions to perform an operation
                                  • The yellow color will become red if these detailed instructions have been changed since the last time the user have read them.
                                • A  +/- button is use to expand or collapse the detailed instructions
                                • Other buttons are used to open popover to allow the capture of specific data from the user.

                                As you can see, you build you application as a "standard" FileMaker application and as Doug mentioned  "When everything looks good on your client, you click a checkbox, and the file will be copied to the FileMaker Server with WebDirect, and anyone with a web browser can view it there".

                                WebDirect_Safir_Insp_Report.tiff

                                • 14. Re: FM 14 and web direct
                                  planteg

                                  Hi Mike,

                                   

                                  there is a lot to learn here on this tread. Thank you so much !

                                   

                                  Interestingly, on FileMaker WebDirect pages, can't right click the source of the page - I am in Chrome.

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