Hello I am going to install filemaker server 14 on a server that is already running filemaker 11 pro will there be any issues with that, they are both dealing with databases that are different versions.
Is this the setup? You want to run FMS 14 on the same computer where someone is running FM11 (not server) on that computer and no one else is accessing it. I assume FMS14 will be access from another computer.
You cannot install two different versions of FileMaker Server on the same machine.
That is not the question. OP wants to continue to run FM11, while also installing FMS14. It should be OK. Try it and see.
I may have interpreted it wrong, but the OP is saying she wants to install FMS on a SERVER that is (I'm paraphrasing) "already running...11". Adding in "They are both dealing with databases that are different versions" suggests to me that what "they" are is "versions of FileMaker Server".
I'm operating on the assumption that a SERVER wouldn't actually be running just FileMaker Pro 11, it would be running FileMaker Server 11. Hopefully the OP can clarify the situation for us.
I apologize what I mean is 11 is already running on the server I want to install filrmakerserver on the same server 14
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You will not be able to access files running on FMServer 14 using FMPro 11.
Is FileMaker Server 11 running on the server now?
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You have not really answered the question. 11 WHAT?
Earlier you said FileMaker Pro. But this seemed doubtful; and people asked you specifically to clarify.
FileMaker SERVER 11 or FileMaker PRO 11?
And - if is FileMaker Pro 11 - this seems strange, is it hosting files peer to peer or why is it running at all on the server?
You can have FileMaker Server 14 installed on a machine that has already a FileMaker 11 client installed. But only the server can host/serve - the communication goes via 'fmnet', means port 5003 (the V11 client-version can not share data, but can be used to work, to connect to other hosts). You can also install the V11 client on a machine that is running FM Server 14.
You can NOT have two FileMaker Server on the same hardware, no matter if one's V11 and the other one's V14 (although there are some tricks, but normally 'NOT')
Means: If You want to host data on a FMS14 (.fmp12 files) AND host data on a FM11 client (.fp7 files), You need 2 machines
(Running FMS on a machine that is used as a fileserver is not recommendet for several reasons)
Filemaker 11 PRO, thought I said that at the beginning of the post?? I have to leave the filemaker pro 11 on because management wants to keep it. I just wanted to know if filemaker 14 server will be able to reside on the same server thats all. the databases that it will show are from filemaker 14 PRO
[quote]Hello I am going to install filemaker server 14 on a server that is already running filemaker 11 pro will there be any issues with that, they are both dealing with databases that are different versions.[/quote]
you know what never mind thank you everyone was just asking a question, I'll figure it out
yes you can do what you requested in your original post (FM PRO 11 and FMS Server 14 on same machine).. but its not reccomended
ok thank you Coherentkris, maybe I'll just find another server to put it on
FM PRO Does NOT require a server OS.. you know that right? you can just install it on a desktop/laptop.
Why would you want to put it on a server?
yes I am aware that it doesn't require a server, its there because it can get backed up every night and its in a controlled environment where it was before was in our drilling dept where it gets hot and miserable. I will eventually upgrade those databases, I'm the only tech here so I have to find time to do all this
You know that if you run backup or virusscan on ANY hosted (peer to peer or hosted via server) FMP database file it can cause corruption?
You can run FMP 11 on a computer with FMS 14 installed.
the hardware FMS 14 is certified to run on is later than what FMP 11 was certified to run on. The hardware will be incompatible with either FMS 14 or with FMP 11 (or both).
you cannot access the FMS 14 files with FMP 11, incompatible file formats, so it cannot be used as a client for the files being served.
you cannot host any files with that FMP 11. Because FMS 14 will tie port 5003 to itself. When you launch FMP 11 it will tell you it cannot share files because the port is in use.
running FMP 11 on it will rob resources from FMS 14. That is one of the primary reasons not to do it.
So if you have another Host of FMP 11 files and you just want to connect to them from the FMP 11 client you can do that.
And this configuration is unsupported by FMI so if ANYTHING isn't working right you can't get help from FMI.
yes I have heard that before thank you
thank you Chocohalic I know that the 11 and 14 are not compatible, I don't intend to try and mix the two. That was not the intention I know they are not compatible I was only asking if they can reside on the same machine thats all.
thank you everyone for the comments
Also the other reason its on a server is so that the users can access it. See there is over 5 users that access this database that someone created with filemaker 11 pro years ago before I got here. It was on an extremely old Pc in the drilling dept where it got very hot and sometime humid. The hard drive has crashed before and had to be cloned, also this pc has windows xp on it which we all know is outdated.
I wont put filemaker server 14 on the same machine thank you everyone
The confusion seems to be with the word server. A Mac running OS X server software is the same Mac as one not running it: the server software simply adds a whole series of other services that are largely hostile to FMS. FM recommends that you don't use OS X Server software at all, especially if you are planning to use any kind of Web Publishing, be it IWP, WebDirect or custom web publishing. I'm working on a site at the moment where they had a perfectly good installation of FMS11, then they ran the OS X server software set up and it has completely messed it all up.
The only reason to run OS X server software is if you want the machine to do two separate jobs, sharing FM files AND doing server stuff like Mail service, Calendar and contacts, or sharing files among more than 10 people, and if you have more than 10 file sharing clients, you should be able to afford another Mac mini or cheap PC to run the FM server.
desireemm1 wrote: Also the other reason its on a server is so that the users can access it. See there is over 5 users that access this database that someone created with filemaker 11 pro years ago before I got here.
Also the other reason its on a server is so that the users can access it. See there is over 5 users that access this database that someone created with filemaker 11 pro years ago before I got here.
This has been a very confusing thread.
So let's see if I can recap it:
- you do have FM11 Pro on a server because it is supposed to host files
- you want to know if FMS14 can be installed on that same machine.
In this scenario: no. whether you use FMP or FMS to host files, they both use port 5003 and that port can only be given out once. So whoever launches first, FMP or FMS, will grab it and block the other from grabbing it.
ok thank you very much guys sorry for the confusion, what I mean by server right now the filemaker pro 11 sits on windows server 2008 r2
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