14 Replies Latest reply on Sep 20, 2016 3:27 PM by Mike_Mitchell

    FM Server 11 to FM Server 14

    db0593

      Currently we are running FM Server 11.  We do NOT use any webserver.  We do not publish anything on the web via FM, all databases are stored on the server and only accessed within one building.  Looking over the installation instructions for 11 this was an option...do you want to setup a web server yes or no.   If I am reading FM Server 14 installation correctly, this is no longer an option?   Is it really necessary and why if we are not doing any web publishing

        • 1. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
          Mike_Mitchell

          Version 14 still installs a web server if you tell it you want it to.

           

          And no, you don't have to do it if you're not using web publishing. You can alter the installation later if you change your mind.

          • 2. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
            beverly

            from the FMS14 Getting Started Guide

            Chapter 2 Installation quick start

             

            FileMaker Server requires a web server in all deployments. The web server serves web publishing clients, hosts the web-based Admin Console application, and handles some data transfer tasks. FileMaker Server requires that a port for web connections and a port for secure web connections is available on the web server. The default ports are port 80 and 443, though you may specify alternative ports during installation. These ports are used by FileMaker Server even if web publishing is disabled. If the FileMaker Server installer detects existing websites using these ports, the installer prompts you to either specify alternative ports or let it disable those websites.

             

            Does that help?

            beverly

            • 3. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
              Mike_Mitchell

              Thanks for the correction! (Embarrassing though it may be.)  

              • 4. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                db0593

                Did this hold true for FM Server 11 too?   Just trying to see if I need to "change" anything when installing FM 14

                • 5. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                  db0593

                  Since FM Server 15 now requires you to have a Web Server even if you are not using web publishing or GO or Web Direct how should the IIS be configured?   We are simply using Filemaker server to host databases that are locally connected to on the LAN via Filemaker Pro clients.    Our FM Administrator will have Filemaker PRO ADV as well as a need to have the admin console.  

                   

                  This is all new to me and I am getting ready to install a "new" server with Filemaker Server 15.   Then we will convert the existing Filemaker 11 data using Filemaker Pro Adv 15 before moving this data to FM Server 15 at which time the FM 11 server will be decommissioned (as it is an old server that we are no longer going to use).   The people that were in charge of this server/installations in the past are no longer with our company so this is "my first" on this topic.

                   

                  Please advise.

                  • 6. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                    Mike_Mitchell

                    FileMaker server will install a default site in IIS, which should be adequate. Especially if you're not using CWP or WebDirect.

                    • 7. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                      db0593

                      Yes but are there any special configurations that I should consider?

                       

                      Like should I disable IIS authentication?   or leave it?

                       

                       

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                      • 8. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                        Mike_Mitchell

                        The defaults are fine in most deployments.

                        • 9. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                          db0593

                          ok I took a bac

                           

                           

                          Darla Bury

                          IT Support - USA

                           

                          Vesuvius USA

                          1404 Newton Drive

                          Champaign

                          Tel: +1217-351-5002 (direct line 217-402-9483)

                          Mob: +1217-778-0593

                          Fax: +1217-351-5031

                          darla.bury@vesuvius.com

                          • 10. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                            db0593

                            Ok.   Sorry about the precious email....fat fingers.

                             

                            I made a backup of the files that reside on the filemaker 11 server (this

                            server will be going away).    I copied this backup to a stand alone

                            laptop that is running filemaker pro adv 15 and I went through the process

                            of converting the data.   Appears that that went fairly quickly.   In

                            looking through the logs I have no "duplicate", "skipped", "failed", or

                            "damaged" errors to report.   But I do have some references stating that

                            the "difference in the index is" with a number on a few items.   That

                            number is most of the time a 1 .... I do have one 10...a -1 and a couple

                            of 2's.    should I be concerned?

                             

                             

                             

                             

                            Darla Bury

                            IT Support - USA

                             

                            Vesuvius USA

                            1404 Newton Drive

                            Champaign

                            Tel: +1217-351-5002 (direct line 217-402-9483)

                            Mob: +1217-778-0593

                            Fax: +1217-351-5031

                            darla.bury@vesuvius.com

                            • 11. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                              db0593

                              Is it "safe" to view the database server (via admin console) while people

                              are using the system?

                               

                               

                              Darla Bury

                              IT Support - USA

                               

                              Vesuvius USA

                              1404 Newton Drive

                              Champaign

                              Tel: +1217-351-5002 (direct line 217-402-9483)

                              Mob: +1217-778-0593

                              Fax: +1217-351-5031

                              darla.bury@vesuvius.com

                              • 12. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                                Mike_Mitchell

                                Yes, of course.

                                • 13. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                                  db0593

                                  based on the answers to my questions...  as we do not do web

                                  publishing...this is where I am...is that correct?   and will the admin

                                  console still work if the webserver is disabled?   I assume it was

                                  disabled as I said that we do not want to publish data on the internet or

                                  intranet using Filemaker WebDirect or Custom web publishing.   We do want

                                  to use the admin console...is this going to work?

                                   

                                   

                                  Darla Bury

                                  IT Support - USA

                                   

                                  Vesuvius USA

                                  1404 Newton Drive

                                  Champaign

                                  Tel: +1217-351-5002 (direct line 217-402-9483)

                                  Mob: +1217-778-0593

                                  Fax: +1217-351-5031

                                  darla.bury@vesuvius.com

                                  • 14. Re: FM Server 11 to FM Server 14
                                    Mike_Mitchell

                                    Since the Admin Console is a web page served up by the server, I'd say you probably need the web server for it to work. I've never actually tried it without it, so I could be wrong, but it seems logical.

                                     

                                    Best I can tell you: Try it and see what happens. If it doesn't work, you can always edit the deployment.