Thank you for your post.
Your initial assumption is correct. When you Hide the Toolbar, you also have the option to include the Record Toolbar.
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I confess I still don't get it. You say that when you hide the toolbar, you also have the option to include the Edit Record Toolbar. That much is clear to me from what I see in the UI.
My question is: if I choose "include", am I including the Edit Record Toolbar in the Hide/Show action chosen in the "parent" action, or am I choosing to hide/show the Edit Record Toolbar independent of the Hide/Show action.
I've tried it both ways with a script I've written to test the behavior and I still can't make sense of it. I would not hesitate to submit something as a feature suggestion if I am certain that it's more than just a matter of my learning something that is more obvious to other developers.
Only when you hide the Toolbar do you get the option to also include the Record Toolbar. If you show the Toolbar, the Record Toolbar will always appear.
Well, that is helpful --- at least a little bit.
I see the option for the Edit Record Toolbar regardless which option is chosen for hide or show. So I will try to remember what you say.
Also, another FBA member told me that it only applies to iOS. I have not yet tried that on an iPad solution to see if he's right but I did check the compatibility tool in Script Workspace and don't see any difference in the script step when I select iOS. Is this another misunderstanding on my part?
Happy New Year, Dennis.
I would not say it's a "misunderstanding" on your part. I would say rather
that this particular script step is badly, um, what's the word? — badly
I don't care enough to research the history but I'd bet that "Show/Hide
Toolbars" goes back well before FileMaker Go appeared. When Go did appear,
they tacked on the "Include Edit Record Toolbar" option without thinking
too hard about it. NOTE that the little description of the script step in
the lower right corner of the script workspace does say:
"Shows or hides the FileMaker Pro status toolbar *and the FileMaker Go
toolbar and editing toolbar*."
I agree with you that it's confusing but I'm not sure how they should "fix"
As far as the "view compatibility" option goes, it would be ideal if the
"include edit record toolbar" option were grayed out when you have checked
ONLY "iOS" compatibility. But I suspect that would be very difficult for
the programmers. Don't recall anything like that elsewhere.
And it makes sense for there to be a single "Show/Hide Toolbars" step.
Don't want to have to do an if/then statement testing for the OS to figure
out whether to use "Show/Hide FileMaker Pro Toolbar" or "Show/Hide
FileMaker Go Toolbar". But of course Go has this extra UI element — the
"editing toolbar" — and it's reasonable to think that developers might
sometimes want to hide it, too, and at other times might not want to.
I guess what they could do is simply relabel that option so it reads
"Include Edit Record Toolbar in FileMaker Go". Not sure whether that would
be too long to fit into the dialog but it would solve the problem you and I
see, don't you think?
And I don't agree that the effect of "include" is ambiguous or unclear. The
primary command is "Show/Hide Toolbars". "Include whatever" is a parameter.
To me it pretty clearly means, "include the edit toolbar in the action of
showing or hiding, that is, if you're showing the toolbar, then show the
edit toolbar too; if you're hiding toolbar, hide edit toolbar as well."
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