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Question asked by deninger on Feb 16, 2017
Latest reply on May 22, 2017 by ndveitch

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I have license keys for FM 15 server (26 user connection). To date, I had not experimented with UC's because I have enough copies of FM 15 for my staff to use on their computers. I plan on leveraging my extra connections, though. So...

Question: where in the admin console can I see how many UC's are in use (or how can I monitor this). I only see an option to log when I reach 80% of my available user connection (the tab shows 26 available user connections)

Question: The FM for UC does not appear to require login-to the server, though it does ask to use a key the first time you connect. How is this supposed to work (limit my use of UC's to only 26 discreet accounts)?

Observation: I also have a FM 14 server (with 26 combined concurrent FM WebDirect and FM Go connections). I inadvertently connected to a DB hosted on a FM 14 server with the FM for UC client. This unexpectedly WORKED.

Question: has anyone else experimented with allowed connections with FM for UC on FM 14 server with concurrent connections? Is the user limit enforced (and by device or user?). Just curious.

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ndveitch May 22, 2017 5:24 AM

Hi deninger,

Have you been able to find any answers to this? I need to find out how to warn a user before they log into the system, whether or not they can log in or not due to connections.

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wimdecorte @ ndveitch on May 22, 2017 5:45 AM

ndveitch wrote:

I need to find out how to warn a user before they log into the system, whether or not they can log in or not due to connections.

How do you imagine that working without first establishing a connection to the server to check?

If you create a local launcher file then you can have that one open the hosted file and trap for any errors and report the error back with the wording that you prefer.

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wimdecorte May 22, 2017 5:47 AM

deninger wrote:

Question: where in the admin console can I see how many UC's are in use (or how can I monitor this). I only see an option to log when I reach 80% of my available user connection (the tab shows 26 available user connections)

The 'clients' tab of your activity panel will tell you. Same with the fmsadmin command line (list clients)

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wimdecorte May 22, 2017 5:48 AM

deninger wrote:

Question: The FM for UC does not appear to require login-to the server, though it does ask to use a key the first time you connect. How is this supposed to work (limit my use of UC's to only 26 discreet accounts)?

FM for UC does require a login to a server. It will run for 15 minutes without it but then will require the user to connect to a file hosted on an FLT licensed server.

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wimdecorte May 22, 2017 5:49 AM

deninger wrote:

Observation: I also have a FM 14 server (with 26 combined concurrent FM WebDirect and FM Go connections). I inadvertently connected to a DB hosted on a FM 14 server with the FM for UC client. This unexpectedly WORKED.

Question: has anyone else experimented with allowed connections with FM for UC on FM 14 server with concurrent connections? Is the user limit enforced (and by device or user?). Just curious.

No surprise that it worked. There is nothing preventing this. However, your FLT/ UC copy of FM will require you to connect to an FLT license server after 15 minutes.

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ndveitch @ wimdecorte on May 22, 2017 5:50 AM

Would I use the Get ( UserCount ) function?

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wimdecorte @ ndveitch on May 22, 2017 5:54 AM

Only for a proximation. Someone with a legacy license of FMP or with a license for FMPA (which is not covered under FLT) can also connect to your FLT server and would count as a user but not count against your available license count.

Also, the Get() function only works for the file you are connected to; it doesn't tell you the # of users that are connected to other files on that same server.

And besides: you can't get the user count until you are connected; doesn't help much if you want to establish whether you can connect.

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ndveitch @ wimdecorte on May 22, 2017 6:01 AM

Hi Wimdecorte,

What I am planning on doing is giving outside users a copy of FileMaker 16 UC, and a launch file to access only the one file on the server. Then the main file on the server would extract any new data from that stand alone file and update the main system.

I have started a thread where I have tried to explain what I am trying to do and if it is possible, Working with concurrent connections .

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ndveitch May 22, 2017 5:24 AM
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Hi deninger,

Have you been able to find any answers to this? I need to find out how to warn a user before they log into the system, whether or not they can log in or not due to connections.
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wimdecorte @ ndveitch on May 22, 2017 5:45 AM
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ndveitch wrote:

I need to find out how to warn a user before they log into the system, whether or not they can log in or not due to connections.

How do you imagine that working without first establishing a connection to the server to check?

If you create a local launcher file then you can have that one open the hosted file and trap for any errors and report the error back with the wording that you prefer.
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wimdecorte May 22, 2017 5:47 AM
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deninger wrote:

Question: where in the admin console can I see how many UC's are in use (or how can I monitor this). I only see an option to log when I reach 80% of my available user connection (the tab shows 26 available user connections)

The 'clients' tab of your activity panel will tell you. Same with the fmsadmin command line (list clients)
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wimdecorte May 22, 2017 5:48 AM
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deninger wrote:

Question: The FM for UC does not appear to require login-to the server, though it does ask to use a key the first time you connect. How is this supposed to work (limit my use of UC's to only 26 discreet accounts)?

FM for UC does require a login to a server. It will run for 15 minutes without it but then will require the user to connect to a file hosted on an FLT licensed server.
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wimdecorte May 22, 2017 5:49 AM
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deninger wrote:

Observation: I also have a FM 14 server (with 26 combined concurrent FM WebDirect and FM Go connections). I inadvertently connected to a DB hosted on a FM 14 server with the FM for UC client. This unexpectedly WORKED.

Question: has anyone else experimented with allowed connections with FM for UC on FM 14 server with concurrent connections? Is the user limit enforced (and by device or user?). Just curious.

No surprise that it worked. There is nothing preventing this. However, your FLT/ UC copy of FM will require you to connect to an FLT license server after 15 minutes.
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ndveitch @ wimdecorte on May 22, 2017 5:50 AM
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Would I use the Get ( UserCount ) function?
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wimdecorte @ ndveitch on May 22, 2017 5:54 AM
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Only for a proximation. Someone with a legacy license of FMP or with a license for FMPA (which is not covered under FLT) can also connect to your FLT server and would count as a user but not count against your available license count.

Also, the Get() function only works for the file you are connected to; it doesn't tell you the # of users that are connected to other files on that same server.

And besides: you can't get the user count until you are connected; doesn't help much if you want to establish whether you can connect.
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ndveitch @ wimdecorte on May 22, 2017 6:01 AM
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Hi Wimdecorte,

What I am planning on doing is giving outside users a copy of FileMaker 16 UC, and a launch file to access only the one file on the server. Then the main file on the server would extract any new data from that stand alone file and update the main system.

I have started a thread where I have tried to explain what I am trying to do and if it is possible, Working with concurrent connections .
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