And filemaker 10 to 13 is a no go.
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WebDirect also requires FileMaker Server.
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at the .fp7 (versions before 12) times, a max of 8 or 9 peer to peer clients were possible. Under V15, 5 is the max
A big advantage is that FMGo clients are possible (peer to peer, up to the max. connections) - with FileMaker Server, connection packs are needed, extremely expensive when the concurrent licence model is needed
V11 and older could even be used via web (iwp), V15 needs FM Server for that
It was 10 "concurrent connections" then, means 1 Host plus 9 Clients.
They then changed to 5 without any notifications. With FM15, it's 6 I guess.
Surprise for that customer of mine who bought 7 iPads! With this change, his purchase of 7 iPads with FMGo Licenses for $40.- each plus the overpriced $500.- for a Swiss FMPro License at this time suddenly was worthless for him.
There's no way to get back a customer who got screwed so badly by FMI!!!
bradfreitag , you should start to give in on our Still terrible miscalculation in Swiss Filemaker Store! dispute at least!
Yes... according to inquieries, adding 5 connections to an existing FM Server (15) costs 9000 Swiss Francs (about 9000 USD)! Customers want that for using (personal) iPad Pro's when in meetings - project's dead now and they won't buy iPad's
Where is that number coming from? 9000 is not the correct price for 5 connections. Especially as an add-on.
Not sure if Markus is right, but as mentioned above, FM Product prices in Switzerland and some other areas in Europe are about 60% higher than in the US!
There are reasons why FMI is struggling to gain ground in Europe.
we asked last december for the price for 3 connections (the minimum is 5, that's ok for me) two times. One answer was 5700.- Euro, the other one a bit less. Makes about 7000 Swiss Francs with the exchange rate from FMI (1.21, official exchange of today is about 1.06..).
(That's for 5 connections)
We asked this month again, price for one Server and the price for one server with 5 connections. Price difference is 9000 Swiss Francs...
Here, customers still want to pay the full price, not monthly etc. (legacy)
We also asked for the cost if a customer changes the licence model to FLT (it's an existing VLA), but we got no answer.
Anyway - those projects are dead now. Even those 5700 Euros are way out of the price that a customer would pay for 3 iPad's - they already got licencies for desktop, it was just the idea to have an iPad when on meetings (instead of a laptop - there are not more users, just three existing users with existing licencies for desktop..)
Yes - we got quite some requests for adding iPads to existing VLA - but there is no way with those prices
People understand that there must be a separate price for web-access - but iPhones and iPads are personal devices here, with fingerprint sensors, payment, etc...
Something is off. Even with the exchange rate, and differences in market, those numbers seem way to high. Typical cost of 5 connections, which includes server, is ~900EU annually.
Either they miss understood something, or something got lost in translation. Though I did have some trouble with the European sites when I was looking at basic pricing. So that could contribute to discrepancy with pricing.
what comes close to what somebody told me: Fix prices are about 3 times annual, FMI did some inquieries that resulted in 3 humens who are using the same connection (average) - makes something more than 9000 Swiss Francs (server was not included in that price). But as mentioned earlier - iPads are personal devices, nobody shares them here...
Anyway... we're hijacking sombody's thread (-:
are you sure ? I'm aware of the change of file format
FM7 - FM11 = .fp7
FM12 - FM15 = .fmp12
the 10-13 range seems weird ? see below it's more like FM7-FM11 and FM12 are a nogo
according to FileMaker Pro 15 Technical Specifications | FileMaker ( thx wimdecorte )
FileMaker Pro 15 and FileMaker Pro 15 Advanced can connect to the following hosts:
FileMaker Server 15, 14, and 13.0.9
FileMaker Pro 15, 14, and 13.0.9
FileMaker Pro 15, 14, and 13.0.9 Advanced
FileMaker Pro 15.0.2 and FileMaker Pro 15.0.2 Advanced can connect to:
The latest updates must be applied to the above software before hosting FileMaker Pro 15 apps.
I currently have FM10 FM12 and FM13 (all advanced) installed on my laptop. Funny enough FM12 still has "websharing" under sharing FM13 only let's me adjust the settings and points to a FMServer for the actual hosting...
as i wrote below, my installed FM12 advanced still lists "websharing" under "sharing" !
Anyway for me Fm15 with 5 peer to peer connections is still enough, as long as they allow me hosting and 5 peers I'm definitely covered for my "co-developing and occasional sharing" needs.
thx to all Jo