Layout Group-of-one object - after cancelling Button Setup

Discussion created by mrwatson-gbs on May 18, 2017
Latest reply on May 19, 2017 by hschlossberg

Product and version FileMaker Pro 16, probably 15, maybe earlier

OS and version Mac 10.11.6

Hardware MBP





Thanks to the fantastic new fmp16 Layout Objects inspector, I have found lots of singly-grouped objects within my layouts.


It makes no sense to have a group of 1!

=> It makes the usability of layouting very difficult, coz you can't see/edit the properties of the 'wrapped' object.


Where do they come from?


=> As far as I can tell, from an erroneous / incomplete behaviour of the Button Setup process.



How to replicate



  1. Place an object (field) on a layout.
  2. Choose Button Setup from the Format (or context) menu.
  3. Close the Button Setup dialog without doing anything
  4. Inspect the object with the Layout Object tree


Expected Result: No group, just the object (as in earlier FM Versions)

Actual Result: Group containing one object


Here is a vid:




While this issue is not a bug as such, it is an absolute disaster for UX when layouting! In other words it is exactly the workaround which is the issue!


  • Avoid pressing Button Setup, and then cancel.
  • Ungroup the object immediately, should you have accidentally done this.
  • If you find such solo-groups later - after they have been further manipulated (Hide calc) - you can use the Layout Object tree to help copy the calc from the group to the object before ungrouping the object.


After removing the groups things look like this:


Screen Shot 2017-05-18 at 17.14.29.png