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    Is there someone who has developed or is interested museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?

    billstorer

      I have years of museum experience, a copy of Filemaker Pro with self written databases but know nothing about Developer. There is nothing on the market [small end of town] for small museums except some very clunky Windows / Access type dbs.

        • 1. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
          GAmstutz

          I believe Gilcrease Museum in Tulsa, OK uses FileMaker for their catalogue.   Are you wanting assistance developing something, or are you wanting to find and purchase something already written (like, perhaps, the system that Gilcrease is using?)

           

          - Gary Amstutz

            http://www.iOSDevSolutions.com

          • 2. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
            billstorer

            Thanks for your response Gary.

            My aim is to produce a museums database in Filemaker that is easy to 

            use and handles all the requirements of museums and galleries.  I have 

            developed 8 relational databases to meet the needs of a museum in 

            Sydney where I was the collection manager.  What is needed is to 

            expand on that experience  and construct a database set that is 

            intuitive in operation.  I do not have any resources to contribute to 

            a project other than my 20+ years experience.  I am semi-retired and 

            would be very happy to assist in the development of a suitable package 

            to help sma;ll community museums.

             

            The only commercial museum dbs available in Australia are based on 

            Windows and or Access - and they are very clunky.  I have used all but 

            one of those available here.

             

            best wishes

            Bill Storer

            • 3. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
              GAmstutz

              Bill,

               

              Sorry, I think I misunderstood your original post.  So for clarification, you're thinking about building a commercial museum cataloguing system, and are wondering if any readers might be interested in purchasing such a system (or perhaps knows of a regional museum that could use it if you build it?)

               

              Sounds like you might have the perfect career experience to design and build such a system that could be valuable for many museums that want something other than a Windows-only solution.  If you decide to build it, let me know if you need any help with the user interface, especially on iOS devices (iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch).  I might be interested in helping you on that project!

               

              - Gary Amstutz

              iOS Development Solutions

              • 4. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                billstorer

                Hi Gary,

                 

                To clear up my poor communication - I was seeking two answers to two 

                questions really - 1. whether anyone was developing a museums package 

                and 

                2.  whether anyone was interested in developing a museums package.  

                There is no money for the project and a small chance of breaking into 

                a market that is growing slowly.

                 

                Thank you for your offer of assistance.  There has one other reply to 

                the post, from a person who seems interested in the development 

                project.  How do you feel about me connecting the two of you?

                 

                best wishes

                Bill Storer

                 

                +61 2 4942 3514

                • 5. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                  hjgunn@mmedia.is

                  There used to be a product called virtual collection, from GCI in Canada.

                  http://ultima.gci.ca/home.html

                   

                  Their original product was written in FM but I don't know what their current development status is.

                   

                  I looked into developing a more modern packet around 7 years ago but then learned that my market at the time thought Filemaker was to expensive for the project.  

                   

                  They planned to use a much cheaper solution doing this in MySQL and PHP etc.

                  Coming to think of it, I haven't heard of a finished product yet.  ;-)

                   

                  Kind regards

                  Hans

                  • 6. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                    billstorer

                    Hans, Thank you for the info.  I was not aware of the product you have 

                    indicated.

                    Seven years ago FM would have been too expensive for the community 

                    museums market but in Australia today the starting price for the most 

                    popular museum catalogue program is $2,500.  Filemaker cost less that 

                    $1,000 here, so a reasonably priced museum solution in FM would get a 

                    go.  I expect that is the case in other countries.

                    I believe that it is possible to create a FM solution that can also 

                    compete with the upper end of the market which starts about $45,000 in 

                    the same package.

                     

                    Please keep me in the loop if you come across anything further.

                    best wishes

                    Bill

                    • 7. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                      GAmstutz

                      I think perhaps what Hans was trying to say was that it might be considered too expensive per license for many smaller museums. If the museum has, say 10 computers that they need to use to access their FM collection, that would be up to $3000 for just the 10 licenses of FileMaker, and if they also want to use a FileMaker server, that could bring the total Filemaker portion of the bill up to $4000-6000.   On top of that cost, they'd have to buy the custom museum software (unless the makers made it a standalone application, not requiring s FM license).  There are many lower cost solutions that could be built using MySQL (or even using Objective-C and Core Data) that wouldn't require the FM licensing on top of the cost of the museum software. However, with the free FM Go now available, if museums wanted to standardize on iPads, a museum software database built in FileMaker might make a lot more sense financially.  One relatively low cost FM Pro license to host the database, and a lot of iPads, iPod Touches and iPhones would indeed make a very handy systerm for a museum today, built using the ultra-fast FM dev environment.  I'd certainly be interested in helping with that.

                      • 9. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                        hjgunn@mmedia.is

                        Thinking about this a bit further might give the following options:

                         

                        Runtime versions for single computer appliances.

                        FM server and web access using PHP in one wants to keep the cost on the development side rather than on the software side.

                        FM server and FM Go for iPad - iPhone access.

                        FM server and FM Pro for people that have more money along with a FM subscription program.

                         

                        Due to shorter development times FM might make sense especially as one can create a rudimentary system in a few days.

                        My SQL and Postgres can of course be cheaper but then you will probably see a longer development time.

                        But then again, depending on what you are doing, you can see long development times in FM as well.

                         

                        However if you move to the commercial version of these environments I suspect that you could be looking at quite some expenses as well.

                         

                        Tell me Bill, do you own FM PRO, version 8 or newer?

                         

                        Hans

                        • 10. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                          LyndsayHowarth

                          I have a now 10 year old gallery management system which is designed for a boutique gallery in Brisbane. It was designed to be portable as the gallery specialises in Aboriginal art. The portable system also allows the user to maintain their online gallery web site  which is also a FileMaker solution and is hosted by FileMaker Server..

                           

                          If you would like to have a look, please contact me privately.

                           

                          - Lyndsay

                          • 11. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                            billstorer

                            Hello everyone,

                            My apologies for the delay.  I've had a couple of bad weeks with 

                            convalescence after some surgery.  I have some thoughts to add about 

                            why developing a software package would be useful.

                             

                            Also attached is a better framed analysis of the fields required for 

                            the database.  This list will need fine tuning and relationships 

                            determined.

                             

                            Potential market for Museum Collection db

                            This assessment is based on Australian conditions only, but I think 

                            could well apply in other markets.

                             

                            Existing software:

                             

                            Most large institutions used propriety software managed by their own 

                            IT departments.  Some, including Smithsonian, use commercial software 

                            such as KE Software’s EMu with a server and many 

                            licences.  Smaller museums use single licence [or up to six in some 

                            Local Government organisations] such as Mosaic , Vernon 

                            , AdLib and others.  This software is 

                            all exclusively Windows based.

                             

                            Potential

                             

                            There are over 1500 small museums [all volunteer or less than 4 paid 

                            staff] in Australia.  About one-half of these use one of the above 

                            collection management systems.  The remainder have not yet adopted an 

                            IT solution, but pressure is being applied by various government based 

                            agencies for them to do so, and to develop web presence.  One state 

                            is trialling a centrally based on-line server with 

                            collection management software for small museums and Vernon offers a 

                            commercial on-line server option.

                             

                            Most of these smaller institutions have or need a single collection 

                            management solution only.  The idea of servers and multiple access is 

                            beyond their resources at present and in the near future so the cost 

                            of multiple licences is not a major issue now.

                             

                              best wishes

                             

                            Bill Storer

                            • 12. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                              billstorer

                              Hello everyone,

                              My apologies for the delay.  I've had a couple of bad weeks with 

                              convalescence after some surgery.  I have some thoughts to add about 

                              why developing a software package would be useful.

                               

                              Also attached is a better framed analysis of the fields required for 

                              the database.  This list will need fine tuning and relationships 

                              determined.

                               

                              Potential market for Museum Collection db

                              This assessment is based on Australian conditions only, but I think 

                              could well apply in other markets.

                               

                              Existing software:

                               

                              Most large institutions used propriety software managed by their own 

                              IT departments.  Some, including Smithsonian, use commercial software 

                              such as KE Software’s EMu with a server and many 

                              licences.  Smaller museums use single licence [or up to six in some 

                              Local Government organisations] such as Mosaic , Vernon 

                              , AdLib and others.  This software is 

                              all exclusively Windows based.

                               

                              Potential

                               

                              There are over 1500 small museums [all volunteer or less than 4 paid 

                              staff] in Australia.  About one-half of these use one of the above 

                              collection management systems.  The remainder have not yet adopted an 

                              IT solution, but pressure is being applied by various government based 

                              agencies for them to do so, and to develop web presence.  One state 

                              is trialling a centrally based on-line server with 

                              collection management software for small museums and Vernon offers a 

                              commercial on-line server option.

                               

                              Most of these smaller institutions have or need a single collection 

                              management solution only.  The idea of servers and multiple access is 

                              beyond their resources at present and in the near future so the cost 

                              of multiple licences is not a major issue now.

                               

                                best wishes

                               

                              Bill Storer

                              • 13. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                                mardikennedy

                                Hi Bill,

                                 

                                I'm Sydney-based but read TechNet much less regularly than I used to - sorry for not seeing your post until now.  I do have galleries and collection software that is used by a number of galleries, collectors/ collections and art centres across the country (and a few overseas).  I'll give you a call tomorrow or you can email me directly.

                                 

                                All the best,

                                Mardi Kennedy

                                Mob: 0409 394 525

                                www.the-stockroom.com

                                • 14. Re: Is there someone who has developed [or is interested] museum catalogue platform in Filemaker?
                                  billstorer

                                  Hi Mardi,

                                  I'll call you tomorrow Friday to discuss further if you wish.  Some 

                                  others have responded  about this subjects.  I have attached a Word 

                                  document that lists the fields I believe are required, although 

                                  relationships are still to be determined.  I have also have outlined 

                                  of the market.  It is necessary to include art museums input for 

                                  further development of the db, however, I wouild like that the initial 

                                  target be volunteer social history museums where possible.

                                   

                                  best wishes

                                  Bill Storer

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