10 Replies Latest reply on Oct 21, 2014 3:46 PM by ibrahim_bittar

    Blackberry

    nella

      I was just informed that our company wants to allow remote access to our sales staff off site.

      Our database has been created for our screen resolution of 1920 x 1280 throughout the company.

      • It appears that our sales staff want to use Blackberry. Is this possible or will there be issues?
      • Will we now need FM Server for this task?

      Below is our configuration with the sales in purple:

      database-config.jpg

        • 1. Re: Blackberry
          wimdecorte

          There is no native FM client for BlackBerry (or Android for that matter), only for iOS.

          Even on iOS you can't expect screens created for the desktop to be usable.  Your users will have the best experience with dedicated screens created for their device.

           

          If they want to stick with BlackBerry you will need to create web pages they can use on that device.

           

          You probably should be using FM Server regardless of this change.  Live backups and pure performance are the main reasons why.

          • 2. Re: Blackberry
            Stephen Huston

            To further complicate things, FMI has stated that they don't support mobile browsers with WebDirect, so you can't guarantee that WebDirect will work with the non-iOS mobile devices unless you go to Custom Web Publishing pages (CWP), which is a lot more work compared to WebDirect or IWP.

             

            Maybe laptops?

             

            I agree entirely with wimdecorte; yes, you should install FM Server for any WAN deployment.

            • 3. Re: Blackberry
              Malcolm

              Custom Web Publishing pages (CWP), which is a lot more work compared to WebDirect or IWP.

               

              Is this fact or opinion?

               

              Having developed UI for all three methods, I’m strongly in favour of CWP. WebDirect is really exciting but it is still tomorrow-ware for most use cases.

               

              I’ve found that CWP is extremely easy to develop. It is flexible, it provides the ability to mash-up FMP with any other web technology you like. If you are familiar with any of the PHP and javascript frameworks you can integrate FMP/CWP and produce highly functional UI quickly and easily.

               

              However, blackberry users don’t want fancy UI. The browser doesn’t like it. They’ll want an extremely minimal, lean, fast, web. It may suit IWP if they are on v11 or v12 but you should use FMServer.

               

              Malcolm

              • 4. Re: Blackberry
                beverly

                +1 on CWP. You can design the HTML with style attributes (class=abc) that call CSS. That way you have very flexible documents (web pages) that could work well on various browsers. There could be separate CSS used by the same HTML and make the page look good on Blackberry browser and desktop browsers. (Or any tablet browser).

                 

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                • 5. Re: Blackberry
                  Stephen Huston

                  I agree with you and Beverly that CWP is more flexible,

                  but absolutely more work than just enabling WebDirect or IWP in the served file.

                  (Anyone ever set up CWP for a full-blown data-entry file in 2 mintues?)

                  • 6. Re: Blackberry
                    wimdecorte

                    Stephen Huston wrote:

                    just enabling WebDirect or IWP in the served file.

                     

                    That's the part that usually falls flat.  In order to use WebD properly you really need to design layouts and workflows for that purpose given the differences in behavior between WebD and normal FMP.

                    The "more work" obviously depends on the profiency in the environment, but the past has shown that "just enabling" more often than not is a failure.

                    • 7. Re: Blackberry
                      beverly

                      Of course, not Stephen. Yes. a lot of work. But absolutely possible to display on more than Mac/Windows/iOS!!

                       

                      beverly

                      • 8. Re: Blackberry
                        Malcolm

                        We could ask: (Anyone ever set up WebDirect / IWP for a full-blown data-entry file in 2 minutes?)  Not me

                         

                        But to take your teasing seriously, I have a suite of tools that I use to explore CWP enabled FMP files, so let’s start the timer.

                         

                        step one: connect via FMP and enable one or more privilege sets for CWP ( a minute or a bit more)

                        step two:  switch to web browser, locate tools bookmark, enter the server IP and user credentials ( ten - twenty seconds)

                        step three: choose the file to work with ( a few seconds)

                        step four : choose the layout to work with ( a few seconds)

                        step five: choose the record to work with  ( a few seconds)

                        At step six I am looking at a fully functional data entry layout.

                        step six: edit record

                         

                        Double all of those times, it doesn’t make much difference.

                         

                        There isn’t very much polish and on first glance users will probably see too much data. If that’s a problem it only takes a few minutes to add new layouts and pull the unwanted fields. There still isn’t much polish but I can use my tool set to build a fully functional CWP web site for any FMP database and put it online in the same sort of time that it takes me to boil the kettle and make a pot of tea.

                         

                        Malcolm

                         

                        I forgot the BUT.

                         

                        BUT, as we all know, most clients want more than a table by table view of their fields.

                        • 9. Re: Blackberry
                          nella

                          They are reconsidering. Whew!

                          Thank you all for your help.

                          • 10. Re: Blackberry
                            ibrahim_bittar

                            Hi Malcolm

                             

                            Not in two minutes but yes in two hours, including special layouts and scripting.

                             

                            Unless you're a HTML/PHP/CSS/JavaScript genius, I can't see how this can be equaled.