9 Replies Latest reply on May 31, 2015 4:41 AM by StevenRubenstein

    Layout-rendering speed with global variables

    StevenRubenstein

      We just created a navigation bar composed of global variables set at login.  It works great, but there's a 3-6 second delay when going to a different layout with the navigation bar, and it's not the navigation script that's doing it.  We put a timer on the script, which is executing in under 1 second.  We created layouts without the toolbar -- again, under one second to access.  But when we navigate to a layout with the toolbar, it at first looks like the button doesn't work before it goes to the right layout (about 3-6 seconds).  This doesn't seem like a big deal, but the user experience is actually pretty frustrating, since it doesn't seem like the button is getting clicked (even though it is).

       

      Any ideas to make this go faster?  Do we have to give up on global variables on layouts?

        • 1. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
          erolst

          A quick test doesn't seem to confirm this (defined several $$vars with label lists, then calculated the value per segment using Evaluate() and the layout name).

           

          Anything unusual about your $$vars, or your label calcs?

           

          Is the delay in the rendering of the layout after arriving there, or until the switch is actually performed, i.e. remaining on the source layout? (The title suggests the former, the description the latter.)

          • 2. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
            StevenRubenstein

            There are 8 global variables in the nav bar, plus more in two pop-ups (I'm not thinking that these pop-ups affect speed, but I haven't tested).  These variables are set at initial log-in, so there's nothing too complicated about them.  They are simple labels.

             

            Also, this is a hosted file (WAN), so I'm sure that if it were not hosted or LAN, none of this would be a problem.

             

            The delay occurs before we see the new layout -- you sit on the original layout for a couple of seconds.  But the problem is definitely with the destination layout.

            • 3. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
              StevenRubenstein

              Confirmed -- if the global variables are on the pop-up, there's not a problem.

              • 4. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
                cortical

                Have been using $$var for 2 level for nav for years, never encountered such issues.

                 

                <<Do we have to give up on global variables on layouts?>>

                 

                Don't have to, but suggest you look at Button bars and navigation layout parts in FMP14; you don't say what version you are using, so this may not be relevant.

                 

                the button text can be calculated

                Conditional format on individual buttons just as $$var buttons

                can expand the width of segments uniformly land the whole button bar with simply drag ( like repeat fields), rather than resizing and re-spacing multiple $$var buttons

                no more $$var occupying space in the Data Viewer

                 

                Thinking ahead to when defining a single navigation part that can be seen across multiple layouts ( rather than replicated on multiple layouts); I suspect the new button bar and layout part will could be foundational parts of that implementation.

                • 5. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
                  StevenRubenstein

                  I am using 14, but I might have some users who are still on 14.  But I think I figured out the problem: conditional formatting.  I don't know whether it's conditional formatting in general that slows things down, or my calculation:

                   

                  Let(

                  [

                  selectedmodule = $$label.1;

                  valuenumber = PositionValue ( $$captions ; selectedmodule ; 1 ; 1 )

                  ];

                   

                   

                  GetLayout(Substitute(MiddleValues ( $$listviews ; valuenumber ; 1 ); "¶"; "")) = Get(LayoutName)

                  or

                  GetLayout(Substitute(MiddleValues ( $$mainviews ; valuenumber ; 1 ); "¶"; "")) = Get(LayoutName)

                   

                   

                  )

                  • 6. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
                    cortical

                    Steven,

                     

                    I use 2 $$var sets, one for main modules ( c. 10 modules) then another set for sub-module layouts; for the button (module) names

                    the module is passed to the script as a simple number, same for the sub-module

                     

                    so the main $$_nav1 is a single number set by the script, from the SP (number) on the $$_nav_n global buttons, and the go layout is a conditional If sequence

                     

                    If $_sp = 1

                    go lay...

                    else if $_sp = 1 = 2

                    go lay...

                     

                    then the CF on the main nag buttons can be a simple If $$_nav1 = n

                    same on the sub-module buttons, CF: $$_nav2 = n

                     

                     

                    As the buttons are $$_var, the text values can be set per module by the navy_secondary script

                    • 7. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
                      siplus

                      I suppose that you have both navigation and content on your destination layout.

                       

                      Duplicate it, remove all content and only leave navigation on it. Go to it. Is it still slow ?

                       

                      Things like tab controls / slide controls on your layout, unlike popovers, do load all the data they are meant to display, even if it's not on the front tab/slide.

                       

                      PS GetLayout() used in your posted calc is not a native FM function. I presume it's a custom function. Depending on how it is implemented, slowness might appear.

                      • 8. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
                        electon

                        I've a navigation bar with 12 top and 12 sub navigation buttons all global vars.

                        Filemaker seems to first load the data then draw the layout, so how much data is displayed will make a difference.

                        Is the delay the same on every layout?

                        • 9. Re: Layout-rendering speed with global variables
                          StevenRubenstein

                          Simplifying the calculations for the conditional formatting solved the problem!